18 Then she said, “In the old days they used to say, ‘They will ask advice at Avel’; and that would end the discussion.

19 We are among those in Isra’el who are peaceful and faithful. Why are you destroying a city and a mother in Isra’el? Why swallow up the inheritance of ADONAI?”

20 Yo’av answered, “Heaven forbid! Heaven forbid that I should swallow or destroy anything!